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[edit] Name o the project

The'r graet confusion ower this, wi me oniewey. A'v seen aa three variants -- Wikipedia, Wikipedie an Wikipaedia -- aa ower the shop. A think we need tae settle on wan name. A'm agin Wikipaedia mainly acause the RRSSC uises ae tae represent the soond in spaek or windae that can be /i/, /e/ or /ɪ/ dependin on whit airt ye'r frae. But A dinna think oniebodie's pronooncin it /wɪkɪpedia/ or /wɪkɪpɪdia/ -- A daursay that aabodie's sayin /wɪkɪpidia/, same as me (tho A cuid be wrang o coorse). (Wikipedie wad o coorse be /wɪkɪpidi/)

A'm no fasht whit ane o the ither name suggestions we wale. Mendor 18:24, 1 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Weel maist o the ither Romance an Germanic leids uise Wikipedia, sae aiblins it's best that we uise that tae sin ye dinna like Wikipaedia for spellin raisons. Wikipedie wuid be aaricht an aa. The ither leid that uises it is Czech -- nae that that maks onie odds. -- Derek Ross 18:51, 1 Jul 2005 (UTC)
A'd hiv thocht it wad hae been Wikipédie in Frainch, but it seems no. It wad help gin we haed onie idea o whit the Scots for encyclopedia wis, gin it wisna juist encyclopedia. A canna fin ocht in DSL. A think "Wikipedia" micht be the maist convenient, tho — Mendor 19:12, 1 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Thare uisst tae be the spellin Encyclopædia aften written Encyclopaedia acause fowk dinna hae thon chairacter on thair typewriters or computers. Tho A wad pronoonce it wi /i/ sae Wikipedia.

Bi the by, can ony o youse cliver chiels sort the IPA/Unicode templates. A haed a shottie at copyin thaim fae the English version but fund masel in a richt fankle. A jalouse that siclike is something we're gaun tae need. Mendor's contreebution abuin juist shaws wee kisties on ma computer - e'en in edit mode.

Jimmy 1st. Julie 2005

Aye, me an aa. I'll see whit I can dae. By the by, Jimmy, gin ye sign yer stuff bi pitting fower tildes aifter it like this: ~~~~, the Wikipedia saftware'll automatically sign and date it for ye. It's maks things a wee bit aesier. Cheers -- Derek Ross 19:37, 1 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for that wi the tildes. A aye wunnert hou fowk daes that.
A eikit a puckle airtins in the Help page. Is thare no a page anent hou tae edit pages? The bittie anent the tildes coud gang in thare an aw.

Jimmy 20:19, 1 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Tak a gander at Whit wey til edit a page. It's a muckle bruit but it haes aa that tilde stuff an aathing in't. Mendor haes translatit maist o it but there's aye a bit in English at the hindend, if ye're feelin eident. -- Derek Ross 20:34, 1 Jul 2005 (UTC)


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WikipaediA

A haed anither shottie at the logo. It isna richt rocket science but it micht dae till some dab haund at siclike comes up wi better.

Jimmy 11:31, 22 Augist 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Neologisms

Shuid we hae thaim?

Again, A hae conflictin views on this. The wis aareadies a wee collogue aboot it on meta — A'll hae tae see if A can fin it. Houaniver, A'm thinkin nou mair aboot a puckle o technical terms.

A'v been uisin a puckle neologisms that wisna ma ain — walin for "election" an unthirldom for "independence", baith aucht tae the SNP — but A'm a bit feart tae mak onie mair. For examplar, shuid we be crying "hydrogen" something like watterstuff (cp Ger Wasserstoff)? A dout the'r onie "tradeitional" Scots words for things like that, an it wad mak the meanin o the word mair transparent (for bairns in eddication, say) but it micht be seen as a bit... weel... silly*. But than, same wi unthirldom, an A'm no giein that ane up! :-)

Thochts? Mendor 14:13, 2 Jul 2005 (UTC)

* (tho A like Ander-Saxon, A ken that maist fowk wad juist see it as a silly joke. Mynd you, the'r plenty fowk see Scots as a bit silly an aa, sae mibbe it disna maitter.)

It does matter - if people think the Scots is silly you don't want to reinforce that impression (sorry, my own Scots is very limited - I can read this, but wouldn't like to attempt to write it!). Also, it has to be intelligible - if you make up a word, while it may explain the general meaning it will not necessarily make people understand that you mean a specific technical term. It's then no longer real Scots, but your own private made-up wikipaedia language. Anyway, that's my opinion, for what it's worth. P.S. I like the 'ae' in Wikipaedia - I miss it in the English Wikipedia. 81.157.157.116 22:55, 28 Januar 2008 (UTC)

Richt eneuch. Ye hae tae be gey canny wi neologisms. A puckle gang a lang wey. -- Derek Ross | News 07:08, 29 Januar 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Publeicity

A'm gaunae wirk on a sey o a letter/email that we cuid send tae Scots leid upsteerers tae lat thaim ken aboot this project. It shuid be up here soon (-ish). Mendor 14:13, 2 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Guid man. I've aaready duin a bit o that by sendin email tae a couple o fowk that haev Scots wabsteids sic as the convener o the Scottish Language Society an John Tait but I haedna thocht o makkin a staundard email for the job. -- Derek Ross 14:57, 2 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Here a first sey:

Dear (name o person)

Hiv ye haurd o Wikipedia?

Wikipedia is a free internet encyclopedia. It's pit thegither sae that oniebodie can read or edit it, stert thair ain airticles, an wirk thegither tae ettle efter biggin the biggest wab resoorce for wittins in the warld. The English version aareadies haes mair not 600,000 airticles, an the versions in ither leids bring that total tae 1.6 million airticles.

A version o Wikipedia in Scots haes recently been stertit in Scots. Ye can fin the Scots Wikipedia at http://sco.wikipedia.org/

As (ye/yer organisation/as appropriate) ar (a) weel-kent Scots leid upsteerer(s), we thocht ye micht want tae gie us a haund tae big this encyclopedia up tae the heichest staundart it can be. Ye can help us bi brousin tae http://sco.wikipedia.org, whaur ye can stert editin richt awa gin ye want.

Thanks for yer time in readin this e-mail, an we howp tae see ye at Wikipedia suin!

Yours,

(pit yer name here)

for the contreibutors tae the Scots Wikipedia

It needs a bit o polishin. A ken it disna mention the Scots Wikipedia till the thrid paragraph, but A'm howpin the fact that it's scrieved in Scots will stop thaim frae binnin it as spam the meinute thay see it :-)

whit dae youse think? Mendor 16:00, 2 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Looks fine, man. If ye pit a subjeck o "Projeck ti mak a Scots Encyclopaedia" or similar, that should draa their interest an aa. For comparison, here's fit I wrat in my emails:
Kennin o yer interest in Scots and yer sterlin efforts tae promote it, I thocht that ye might want ti ken aboot a Scots encyclopedia project which has newly stairtit. It's pairt o the Wikipedia project an can be foond at http://sco.wikipedia.org/
Richt noo it's nae ower impressive but gin ye're nae acquent wi Wikipedia an ye want ti see whit micht be duin gien time, tak a leuk at http://en.wikipedia.org/ Mynd that fower year ago it wis aboot the size that the Scots version is noo.
Gin ye wuid lyke ti help us mak the Scots Wikipedia grow either in yer ane name or anonymously, we'd be gratefu for ony time and effort that ye micht be able tae spare either ti screive stuff yersel or ti tell ither Scots speikers aboot it.
Aiblins it's worth eikin the bit aboot tellin ither Scots speikers an aboot the state o the Scots wikipedia juist nou, ti whit ye've proponed. -- Derek Ross 16:46, 2 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Merged an RRSSC-ed version:

Dear (name o person)
Kennin o yer interest in Scots and yer sterlin efforts tae promote it, A thocht that ye micht want ti ken aboot a Scots encyclopedia project that haes newly stertit. It's pairt o the Wikipedia project an can be funnd at http://sco.wikipedia.org/
Wikipedia is a free internet encyclopedia. It's pit thegither sae that oniebodie can read or edit it, stert thair ain airticles, an wirk thegither tae ettle efter biggin the lairgest wab resoorce for wittins in the warld. The English version aareadies haes mair nor 600,000 airticles, an the versions in ither leids bring that total tae 1.6 million airticles.
Gin ye wad like ti help us mak the Scots Wikipedia growe aither in yer ain name or anonymously, we'd be gratefu for onie time an effort that ye micht be able tae spare aither ti screive stuff yersel or ti tell ither Scots spaekers aboot it.
Thanks for yer time in readin this e-mail, an we howp tae see ye at Wikipedia suin!
Yours,
(pit yer name here)
for the contreibutors tae the Scots Wikipedia

Whit dae ye think?

Wha aa did ye send the emails tae, Derek? A wadna want tae send an email tae a bodie that's aareadies got ane frae you — Mendor 20:20, 19 Julie 2005 (UTC)

Juist ti the twa fowk I mentioned abuin: John Tait an convener o the Scottish Language Society. An whit ye've screived leuks grand, ye ken. -- Derek Ross 20:58, 19 Julie 2005 (UTC)

Sent aff tae:

nou tae see whit happens... Mendor 17:00, 2 Augist 2005 (UTC)

Guid man! -- Derek Ross 23:15, 2 Augist 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Scots speir on the 2011 census

This isna technical or raellie aboot the Wikipedia but A dinna ken whaur else tae pit it:

The'r a consultation the noo on a speir anent Scots in the 2011 UK census. It's open till 1t August 2005. Ye can repone tae the consultation here. This is a gran chance tae influence the guvrenment's policy an recogneition o Scots (we aamaist got a speir on Scots in the 2001 census, but it wisna tae be). A bid aabodie tae gie it a leukie. Mendor 20:05, 19 Julie 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Congratulations

I hope this is the good place to do this... Congratulations on having a Scots wikipedia. Moribunt 19:39, 2 Augist 2005 (UTC)

Congratulations! ēmpoor! 22:02 2 Augist 2005 (CEST)

Congratulations, indeed. Now all we have to do is sit back and wait for the Ullans Wikipedia (I have this sense of humor, I cannot help it!) KillerChihuahua 21:44, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Wir gittin someplace!

A juist wantit tae tell ye aw that wir close tae owertakin Kashmiri (कॉशुर / کٲشُر) on the leet! Anerly 34 wikipages tae gang! An eifter that it's juist anither 13 mair airticles afore we bypass Maori (Māori) forby!

But A dae jalouse whit it taks tae git yer name on the hamepage's leet, ye ken unner 100+ airticles (sairly wee prent) acause some wi less airticles than uns are upby! An gin we git oor name upby we wuid maist likely recieve mony mair veesitors. Nou Uiserr

Aye, we'r daein fine. Aa we need is steady contreibutions frae the likes o yersel. Neow airticles are the thing an ye're giein us plenty o thae. -- Derek Ross 14:33, 22 Augist 2005 (UTC)
Thanks. A'm tryin tae mak plenty o new airticles. It's juist that A'm no siccar that ma spellin's richt. Nou Uiserr
Weel, whiles yer spellin is a bittie odd, but dinna fash yersel ower it. There's aye fowk ready an willin ti fix spellin. Fowk like yersel that like makkin neow airticles are thinner on the grun. -- Derek Ross 19:11, 22 Augist 2005 (UTC)

Congratulations - you are now over three times as big as mi:Wikipedia Māori. But for its first 20 months it had hardly any contributors except me - and I'm "mi-1". Now it has at least two frequent contributors who grew up with the language, so it may start to catch up with you. With my 70% Scottish ancestry, I (who have never been out of New Zealand) intend to help both. Robin Patterson 23:54, 14 Mairch 2006 (UTC)

Guid on ye, man! -- Derek Ross 05:10, 15 Mairch 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Announcement

Sorry for using the English language here. I thought that the Mercat Cross may be the best place to notify Scots-speaking Wikipedians of two new facilities at the English language edition of Wikipedia:

Scottish Wikipedians' notice board

and:

Scotland Portal

Please take a look, click the Watch tab, sign-up and contribute. All are most welcome!

(If this is not the best place for this notice, please copy it to the approprite sco page where most discussions/debates/announcements are made. Thanks. I am an sco-1 Scots-speaker, but I just do not have the confidence to write in my mither tung.)--Mais oui! 12:29, 25 October 2005 (UTC)


[edit] Interwiki Bot Status

Hi. I would like to get my interwiki bot YurikBot marked as a bot in your language. The bot is already operating in almost 50 languages, and it would lower the server load and improve the quality of articles if all interwikies are updated at the same time. You can read more or ask questions here. I always run the latest version of the Pywikipediabot (i am also one of the developers of this project). The request for the bot status is here. Please support. Thank you. --Yurik (en) 20:25, 5 Januar 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wi' hae one heck o' a problim...

W'us bin lookin roond 't wiki an w'us spottit a problim. Yers git yuselfs a wee nasty beastie here whus messin' aboot wi' y'us pages... He calls hi'self "Willy on Wheels", an he's bin bannt ower at 't main Inglis wiki... He taks y'us pages an cheenges 'em tae <whute'er> on Wheels. He's a reet wee scrote, an he nids tae be baant outa here. If y'us hae an admin, mebee y'us shuld look at knockin' tha little plonker on tha heed... cheers aa... 86.140.129.58 03:54, 5 Februar 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Interface

Is it juist me or is the "Navigation" bittie aw in English nou? ("Community portal" insteid o "Commonty yett" etc.) An gin it is -- hou is it, dis oniebodie ken? Mendor 15:42, 12 Februar 2006 (UTC)

Huh. It's chynged back for me nou. Weel that's me aw confuised. Ignore haivers abuin. Mendor 17:03, 12 Februar 2006 (UTC)
There wis an update tae the Wikimedia version. That micht hae caused a revert tae English for a minutie. It's aw richt nou tho. -- 68.147.241.235 04:17, 13 Februar 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Interwiki

Hello. I'd like to request approval in running an interwiki bot here. The bot is already used in the Romanian and Italian encyclopaedias. I'll post a request on Meta as soon as (if) I am granted approval. Thanks. --Rebel 10:02, 18 Februar 2006 (UTC)

Nae objections here. Mendor (the ither admin) 20:10, 19 Februar 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Learnin Scots

There a puckle fowk at comes ontae the Wiki an asks "Whaur can I lear masel Scots?". Dis fowk think it's a guid idea for us tae mibbe hae a project page (ower an ayont whit Wikipedia:Spellin an grammar dis awreadies), in English mibbe, wi some airtins tae learnin material etc., that's airtit tae frae the front page, for thae fowk tae see as suin's thay come ontae the site? Mendor 20:16, 19 Februar 2006 (UTC)

A'm thinkin that that wid be best duin as a Wikibook. Houaniver we micht link sic a wikibook frae the front page. -- Derek Ross 04:36, 20 Februar 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pronunciation Richt, Nicht, etc.

This dinae gae here for ordinar, houaniver Ae dinna ken whar else it shuid gae. Are wirds like "Richt" and "Nicht" ("Right" and "Night" in Inglis) pronounced like there Inglis equivalents, or mair like "Rikt" and "Nikt" ? Canaen 03:06, 12 Apryle 2006 (UTC)

Naether. The letter pair, "ch", is said the wey it is in German words like "Bach" (but nae the wey it is in German words like "reich") rather nor bein' missed oot like it is in English or pronoonced like a "k". The "i" in thae words soonds mair like English "e", forbye, sae a mair richtlike pronoonciation wad soond somethin like "recht", or "necht". -- Derek Ross 03:32, 13 Apryle 2006 (UTC)
Ah. Tricky, but Ae ken Ae got it. Throaty, sorta. Canaen 08:12, 6 Mey 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Innerness

I don't actually speak Scots, but I understand it enough to realize that Inverness and Innerness are about the same city. Could someone combine the two articles. - Andre Engels 15:08, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Richt eneuch. A'll see whit A can dae. -- Derek Ross 01:55, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedias without standardized language

Hi and sorry I can't contribute in Scots. There are now many Wikipedia projects in languages that don't have a standardized language, one of the most recent of these project being the Bavarian wikipedia. I think that all these projects are dealing with some common questions: What to do about the variation in dialects and spellings and how to justify these projects? Therefore, I'd like to have a common page for all these projects, something alike to the common page of all the wikipedias in Swiss languages: [1]. I must admit that I have no idea what steps I'd have to take in order to create such a page. I just wanted to ask if there'd be support for this idea on the Scots wikipedia which is one of the oldest and largest wikipedia projects without standardized language. A user of the Alemannic wikipedia: -- j. 'mach' wust ☞ ☏ 12:15, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

I would certainly support something like that in principle. (How would we communicate, though? It'd be a bit ironic, given that most of these non-standardised languages are under threat from dominating ones, for us to communicate in English, the most dominating language of all -- but I suppose it can't be helped. Unless we'd like to adopt my interlanguage of choice?) --Mendor 18:02, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikimania 2007 Team Bulletin

Published by the Wikimania 2007 Taipei Team, Wikimania 2007 Team Bulletin provides the latest news of the Team's organizing work to everyone who is interested in Wikimania; it also gives the Team chances to announce calls for help/participation, so assistance in human and other resources can be sought in a wider range. Team Bulletin is published at the official website of Wikimania 2007 and released to the public domain. Issue 1 and Issue 2 has already published.--218.166.212.246 02:08, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wha daur meddle wi me?

Please see en:Talk:Scotland#Wha_daur_meddle_wi_me. (Star Admins get a passing promo!)--Mais oui! 12:33, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Stairtin a new airticle

Please oniebodie thit kens, can ye tell me how tae start a new airticle here as its no obvious whit tae click tae get under wye!! cheers80.192.59.202 16:00, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Tak a keek at Talk:Main_Page.

[edit] Spellin, nae technical

  • geologie or geology? Follaein the ither sciences (biologIE, astronomIE, an aa) A uised "geologie", but ae anonymous (?) uiser makkit it "geology".
  • makkit or made? [2] saes baith.
  • aa or aw? (A thocht A seed "aa" wis standard here, but a body makkit that "aw".

Aleta 13:34, 9 Dizember 2006 (UTC)

Aw that's been chowed ower afore at Wikipedia talk:Spellin an grammar.
84.135.233.124 14:44, 9 Dizember 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Nonsense page deletion!?

Nae shuir whair tae put this... Ooter space is aboot "Martians" an aa... needs tae be deleted. Aleta 17:23, 11 Dizember 2006 (UTC)

Deletit it. In the futur ye can pit Template:Delete on it (bi pittin {{delete}} on the page) an me or Derek'll delete it for ye. Cheers -- Mendor 03:32, 12 Dizember 2006 (UTC)
Ah, thank ye for the tip! Aleta 06:01, 14 Dizember 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bureaucrat aince mair

Richt awbody, let's gie this bureaucrat walin anither go. Mendor, you're it aince mair! Awbody else, please gang tae Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship an vote for him sae that we can rid oorsels o thae damned bots (or at least pit them in their richtfu place). Oh and a Happy Christmas and a Guid New Year tae ane an aw whan it comes! -- Derek Ross 07:45, 25 Dizember 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Adminship

Aye so nou that A'm a bureaucrat A can mak fowk intae admeenistrators gin thay want. A'm inclined tae be fair leeberal wi this pouer an gie admin pouer tae maist onie (sairious) contreebutor that wants it. Wad fowk gree wi sicna policy?

The pouers o adminship is:

  • deletin pages
  • flittin pages ower anes that's aareadies there
  • blockin an unblockin uisers
  • haein the pouer tae edit restrictit pages like Special:Allmessages
  • bein able tae rowback vandalised pages wi ae dab on the moose
  • protectin an unprotectin pages (no muckle ca' for thon on this wiki, cept the main page that wis gettin a lot o vandals afore)

Gin fowk dis gree wi this idea, wha's wantin tae be an admeenistrator? Gaunae drap us a line on ma collogue page gin ye dae. Note that ye hiv tae be a registert uiser tae be an admin -- anonymous IPs canna get admin pouers for obvious reasons.

-- Mendor 16:58, 4 Februar 2007 (UTC)

Wad oniebodie like tae comment on the abuin idea? Are we a'richt juist tae dae awa wi the election bit, at least for the nou, an juist hiv fowk that wants tae be gien admin pouers gien thaim (lang's thay'r obviously sairious?) Mendor 16:54, 18 Apryle 2007 (UTC)

Aye, soons like a braa idea tae me. Ah micht would like tae be an admin masel an aa, ig anerly tae be able tae delete some ae the spam we get! Bazza 09:40, 19 Apryle 2007 (UTC)

Mendor! Sairy I didnae reid this earlier, it would hae savit time...och, weel, sounds like a guid idea. I should hae asked ye befaur. I'll dae it just nou. OchAyeTheNoo 18:15, 19 Apryle 2007 (UTC)

P.S. Does it matter gin A'v held a vote for masel? Hope nae. OchAyeTheNoo 18:15, 19 Apryle 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wikimedia Walin Notice

Gin ye're able, please pit this notice ower til as mony leids as ye can an post it onywey applicable.

The Wikimedia Election Comatee is takkin candidates for the 2007 Wikimedia Foondation Buird o Trustees election. Please see [3] for mair wittins.

There is time yet for a new candidate tae be conseedered for election, an ye nou hae the option o endorsin the candidate o yer chyce (up til 3 candidates) on the endorsements page, [4]. Please read the instructions carefu afore endorsin. Gin you can pit the instructions ower intae ither leids, please dae't.

Gin ye hae ony quaistens, please contact ony member o the election comatee, that's listit here [5].

Postit for the Election Comatee,
Philippe

[edit] Press TV

Hello everyone! can someone writes an article about Iran's launch of new English TV channel called PRESS TV which claims to be rivaling Anglophone BBC World, CNN International and Qatar base Al Jazeera! for further information please check out English Wikipedia's article at PRESS TV and BBC's article.

Many Thanks: Kaveh

[edit] Bot status for PipepBot

Hello! I ask for permission to run my interwiki bot PipepBot here, and to get a bot flag for it.

  • Operator: it:User:Pipep
  • Purpose: Interwiki
  • Software: Pywikipedia
  • Have bot flag at: als, am, an, ar, az, bat-smg, be-x-old, bn, bs, ca, ceb, cs, cv, da, en, eo, et, fo, fy, ga, hr, id, is, ka, ksh, la, li, lv, nap, nn, no, pms, simple, sl, sr, sv, th, uk, vec
  • Details: Interwiki using Pywikipediabot. It mostly runs manually assisted. May run automatically in some cases.

Thank you! --it:User:Pipep 18:21, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Richt, Ah've put a message on Pipep's Italian page tae find oot whit the bot daes. OchAyeTheNoo 19:24, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
The bot does automatically add interwiki links to wikipedias in other languages. it:User:Pipep 19:59, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
Trouble is we'll hae tae wait for Mendor tae dae this. He's the ae Bureaucrat here an ye maun be ane tae mark a bot. -- Derek Ross | News 23:46, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

PipepBot has now bot status. Thank you! it:User:Pipep 03:05, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Ah, this is whaur Pipep asked for bot status! A kent he'd asked somewhaur acause A'd seen OATN's note on his talk page but A didna ken whaur -- A wis leukin aw ower an cuidna finnd it. Sairy (tae contreebutors that's haed thair "recent chynges" page fillt up wi bot edits) that it teuk sae lang, wis awa on ma holidays an than ma computer dee'd on me. But that's me back nou! Mendor 11:52, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

How mony bots dae we need tae do this onyway? OchAyeTheNoo 19:24, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Prince Charles, Duke o Rothesay

Is he Baron o Renfrew or Lord o Renfrew. --Barliner 10:26, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Dinnae ken! Bit the Inglis wikipedia sais Baron o Renfrew.

> The Prince's style in full (rarely used): His Royal Highness The Prince Charles Philip Arthur > George, Prince of Wales and Earl of Chester, Duke of Cornwall, Duke of Rothesay, Earl of > Carrick, Baron of Renfrew, Lord of the Isles, Prince and Great Steward of Scotland, Knight > Companion of the Most Noble Order of the Garter, Knight of the Most Ancient and Most Noble Order > of the Thistle, Great Master and First and Principal Knight Grand Cross of the Most Honourable > Order of the Bath, Member of the Order of Merit, Knight of the Order of Australia, Companion of > the Queen's Service Order, Honorary Member of the Saskatchewan Order of Merit, Chief Grand > Commander of the Order of Logohu, Member of Her Majesty's Most Honourable Privy Council, > Aide-de-Camp to Her Majesty.

Bazza 13:50, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

We Inglis dinnae ken "Lord o Pairlament" so Inglis wikipedia says "Baron" but that can be Baron like George Way of Plean, Fiscal at the Court of Lord Lyon or an English Baron which is a Lord o Pairlament. I'll leave Lord o Renfrew for the moment. --Barliner 18:24, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Preparation of Fundraiser 2007

Hi, this is just a first introduction message to tell you: there is more to come. I am dealing with the Project Management of the Fundraiser 2007 and therefore will search for contacts of wikimedians who can help us to do our tasks on all projects. I am actually also building the structure for the fundraiser on Meta. We will need people who help to design buttons, translate texts of buttons, documents, sitenotices etc. Should you feel you want to co-operate please let me know. You can reach me on my meta user page or by e-mail at scretella (at) wikimedia (dot) org. If you wish to notify us that you would like to co-operate on translations, it would be nice if you used e-mail and copied the e-mail to me and Aphaia (aphaia (at) gmail (dot) com). Thank you for your attention and I hope to meet you soon! Cheers :-) -- 4 September 2007 Sabine

[edit] Betawiki: better support for your language in MediaWiki

Dear community. I am writing to you to promote a special wiki called Betawiki. This wiki facilitates the localisation of the MediaWiki interface. You have changed many messages here to use your language in the interface, but if you would log in to another wiki, you would not be able to use the interface as well translated as here. We have imported the translations which are done here, but if you wish to contribute to better support of your language in MediaWiki, as well as for many MediaWiki extensions, please visit Betawiki, create an account and request translator privilege.

If you have any further questions, please let me know on my talk page on Betawiki. We will try and assist you as much as possible.

You can also find us on the Freenode IRC network in the channel #mediawiki-i18n where we would be happy to help you get started.

Thank you very much for your attention and I do hope to see some of you on Betawiki soon! Cheers! SPQRobin 17:23, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Screed anent Scots

A thocht the follaein screed anent Scots micht be o interest tae some fowk: The ausbau of present-day Scots. Jimmy 01:04, 20 Januar 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Betawiki: better support for your language in MediaWiki

Dear community. I am writing to you to promote a special wiki called Betawiki. This wiki facilitates the localisation (l10n) of the MediaWiki interface. You may have changed many messages here to use your language in the interface, but if you would log in to for example the Japanese language Wiktionary, you would not be able to use the interface as well translated as here. In fact, of 1,736 messages in the core of MediaWiki, 5.99% of the messages have been translated. Betawiki also supports the translation of messages for 126 extensions, with 2,174 messages. Many of them are used in WMF projects and they are vital for understanding the wiki. Currently 0.00% of the WMF extension messages have been translated. Translators for over 90 languages contribute their work to MediaWiki this way every month.

If you wish to contribute to better support of your language in MediaWiki, as well as for many MediaWiki extensions, please visit Betawiki, create an account and request translator privileges. You can see the current status of localisation of your language on MediaWiki.org and do not forget to get in touch with others that may already be working on your language on Betawiki.

If you have any further questions, please let me know on my talk page on Betawiki. We will try and assist you as much as possible, for example by importing all messages from a local wiki for you to start with, if you so desire.

You can also find us on the Freenode IRC network in the channel #mediawiki-i18n where we will be happy to help you get started.

Thank you very much for your attention and I do hope to see some of you on Betawiki soon! Thanks, GerardM@Betawiki

  • Currently 48.63% of the MediaWiki messages and 0.19% of the messages of the extensions used by the Wikimedia Foundation projects have been localised. Please help us help your language by localising at Betawiki. This is the recent localisation activity for your language. Thanks, GerardM 21:23, 13 Apryle 2008 (UTC)
  • Currently 46.35% of the MediaWiki messages and 0.13% of the messages of the extensions used by the Wikimedia Foundation projects have been localised. Please help us help your language by localising at Betawiki. This is the recent localisation activity for your language. Thanks, GerardM 04:11, 19 Mey 2008 (UTC)
  • Currently 44.39% of the MediaWiki messages and 0.00% of the messages of the extensions used by the Wikimedia Foundation projects have been localised. Please help us help your language by localising at Betawiki. This is the recent localisation activity for your language. Thanks, GerardM 19:34, 8 Julie 2008 (UTC)
  • Currently 43.41% of the MediaWiki messages and 0.15% of the messages of the extensions used by the Wikimedia Foundation projects have been localised. Please help us help your language by localising at Betawiki. This is the recent localisation activity for your language. Thanks, GerardM 13:58, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
  • Currently 40.18% of the MediaWiki messages and 0.13% of the messages of the extensions used by the Wikimedia Foundation projects have been localised. Please help us help your language by localising at Betawiki. This is the recent localisation activity for your language. Thanks, GerardM 07:31, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
  • Currently 38.17% of the MediaWiki messages and 0.13% of the messages of the extensions used by the Wikimedia Foundation projects have been localised. Please help us help your language by localising at Betawiki. This is the recent localisation activity for your language. Thanks, GerardM 09:27, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
  • Currently 38.27% of the MediaWiki messages and 0.10% of the messages of the extensions used by the Wikimedia Foundation projects have been localised. Please help us help your language by localising at Betawiki. This is the recent localisation activity for your language. Thanks, GerardM 08:58, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
  • Currently 37.45% of the MediaWiki messages and 0.09% of the messages of the extensions used by the Wikimedia Foundation projects have been localised. Please help us help your language by localising and proof reading at Betawiki. This is the recent localisation activity for your language. Thanks, GerardM 11:26, 15 Dizember 2008 (UTC)
  • Currently 36.89% of the MediaWiki messages and 0.09% of the messages of the extensions used by the Wikimedia Foundation projects have been localised. Please help us help your language by localising and proof reading at Betawiki. This is the recent localisation activity for your language. Thanks, GerardM 20:34, 12 Januar 2009 (UTC)
PS Please help us complete the most wanted messages..

[edit] Research "small" Wikipedias

Hello, I do a little research about Wikipedias in "small" or "weak" languages. If you would like to help me answering some questions, I would be grateful if you contact me by e-mail via mia user page.--Ziko 16:51, 20 Apryle 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Bot policy

Hello. To facilitate steward granting of bot access, I suggest implementing the standard bot policy on this wiki. This will involve creating a redirect to this page from Project:Bot policy, and adding a line at the top noting that it is used here. In particular, this policy allows automatic acceptance of known interlanguage linking bots (if this page says that is acceptable), which form the vast majority of such requests.

Please read the text at m:Bot policy before commenting. If you object, please say so; it will be implemented in one week if there is no objection, since it is particularly written to streamline bot requests on wikis with little or no community interested in bot access requests. Carsrac 12:46, 14 Juin 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Tell us about your Wikipedia

Please Tell us about your Wikipedia language edition, answering some questions, and learn about others.--Ziko 22:23, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

[edit] New UK wikimedia chapter

A plan is in the works to found a new UK chapter of the Wikimedia Foundation, and we are currently gathering support from the community. If you are interested in being part of this new UK chapter as a member, a board member or as someone with a general interest in the chapter, please head over to m:Wikimedia UK v2.0 and let us know. We also welcome help in making finishing touches to the plans. An election will be held shortly for the initial board, who will oversee the process of founding the company and accepting membership applications. They will then call an AGM to formally elect a new board, which will take the chapter forward, starting to raise funds and generally supporting the Wikimedia community in the UK.

Geni 23:29, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Holocaust

Hi,

I don't actually know Scots, but as far as i understand, the phrasing of in the article Holocaust is rather non-serious.

I suppose that "tho he didna pheesically tak pairt in it hissel" means "though he didn't physically take part in it himself" and "Some dafties denee's it happened, tho." means "Some stupid people deny that it happened, though". If i understood it properly, then well, technically it's rather correct, but very non-serious.

Can anyone please make it look more serious? I think that the subject deserves it.

Please excuse me if i misunderstand something.

Thanks in advance. --Amir E. Aharoni 11:28, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wikimedia UK

Wikimedians in the United Kingdom are working to set up a chapter of the Wikimedia Foundation, which will aid and encourage people to collect, develop and effectively disseminate knowledge. A board of five members has been elected, and a company has now been set up. Membership applications are now invited, and will be processed as soon as we have a bank account. The organisation needs the support and involvement of people like you.

So far, most participants have been based on English-language projects, but we want to ensure that we work with and for Wikimedians in all languages. As this Wikipedia is in a language native to the UK, we are making contact with you.

We need to know what a new UK chapter can do to assist your project, and how we can best work together to make that happen. We are also looking for people who can translate short pieces of text, such as the first paragraph of this message, to help publicise the activities of the chapter.

Please do comment, make suggestions, and feel free to ask us any questions, whether here, on MetaWiki, or on the wikimedia-uk mailing list. Warofdreams 11:19, 1 Dizember 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Weak language, weak Wikipedia?

Hello, at Youtube I put a video about smaller Wikipedias. If you are interested, please search there for "Weak language, weak Wikipedia? 01/03".--Ziko 12:56, 25 Juin 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for thon Ziko, I haed a keik at thon the ithir day. Intressin stuff, nae dout Duncan Sneddon 14:37, 30 Juin 2008 (UTC)
Hello, I see that I should go to my various user talk pages more often.:-) Kind regards --Ziko 13:50, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Manual for new and small Wikipedias

Hello, at Meta there is the project of a Manual to help new and small Wikipedias, and a set of Wikipedia pages and help pages every Wikipedia should have. You gained experience in these questions when building up your language edition, and I would like you to have a look and comment. Kind regards --Ziko 13:50, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

[edit] High St

A wis wunnerin whit the Scots for High Street wis. This is acause A wis thinkin aboot the Overgate Centre in Dundee that opens ontae the High Street. Is Owergate the Scots for High St? Are thare ony ither Owergates that youse ken o? Heich-gate seems tae mean "Highway" raither nor "High St" Scroggie 19:45, 26 Apryle 2009 (UTC)

Hie street. Its the Owergate acause its faurer up the brae nor the Nethergate. 84.135.252.150 14:22, 27 Apryle 2009 (UTC)

[edit] The LocalisationUpdate extension has gone live

The LocalisationUpdate extension is now enabled for all Wikimedia projects. From now on new localisations that become available in SVN will become available to your project within 24 hours. Your localisations get into SVN from translatewiki.net typically within a day and at worst in two days. This is a huge improvement from the old practice where the localisations became available with new software. This could take weeks, even months.

The localisations done by our community at translatewiki.net are committed to SVN typically every day. When the system messages in English are the same as the local messages, they will now be inserted in a file and are available for use in all our projects in a timely manner

[edit] What this means for you

Local messages have an impact on the performance of our system. It is best when messages are as much as possible part of the system messages. In order to remove unnecessary duplication, all the messages that have a local localisation and are exactly the same as the system message will be removed. What we ask you to do is to compare and proof read the messages in translatewiki.net and the local messages. You can then either remove local messages when the translatewiki.net message is to be preferred or, you can update the message at translatewiki.net.

Messages that are specific to your project will have to stay as they are. You do want to check if the format and the variables of the message are still the same.

[edit] Why localise at translatewiki.net

When you localise at translatewiki.net, your messages will be used in all Wikimedia projects and eventually in all MediaWiki based projects. This is how we provide the standard support for your language. When messages change, at translatewiki.net you will be prompted to revisit your translations. Localising is more efficient because we have innovated the process to make you more efficient; there is text explaining about messages and we have applied AJAX technology to reduce the number of clicks you have to make.

[edit] Translatewiki.net update

  • Currently 39.27% of the MediaWiki messages and 0.11% of the messages of the extensions used by the Wikimedia Foundation projects have been localised. Please help us help your language by localising and proof reading at translatewiki.net. This is the recent localisation activity for your language. Thanks, GerardM 15:54, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
  • Currently 38.76% of the MediaWiki messages and 0.11% of the messages of the extensions used by the Wikimedia Foundation projects have been localised. Please help us help your language by localising and proof reading at translatewiki.net. This is the recent localisation activity for your language. Thanks, GerardM 15:08, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] How can we improve the usability for your language

We expect that with the implementation of LocalisationUpdate the usability of MediaWiki for your language will improve. We are now ready to look at other aspects of usability for your language as well. There are two questions we would like you to answer: Are there issues with the new functionality of the Usability Initiative Does MediaWiki support your language properly

The best way to answer the first question is to visit the translatewiki.net. Change the language to your language, select the “vector” skin and add the advanced tool bar in in the preferences and check out the new functionality. And make some changes in your user page. When there is a need to improve on the localisation, please make the necessary changess . It should update your localisation straight away. We would like you to report each issue individually at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Usability_issues.

When there are problems with the support of MediaWiki for your language, we really want to know about this. It is best to report each issue separately. In this way there will be no large mass of issues to resolve but we can address each issue on its own. Consider issues with the display of characters, the presentation of your script, the position of the side bar, the combination of text with other languages, scripts. It is best to try this in an environment like the prototype wiki as it provides you with a clean, basic and up to date environment. The prototype wiki is available for five languages but you can select any of them, change the preferences to your language and test out MediaWiki for your language.

We would like you to report each issue individually at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Language_issues. The issues you raise will all be assessed. It is important to keep each issue separate, because this will make it easier to understand the issues and find solutions.

PS This text has been approved by Naoko, Brion and Siebrand. Thanks, GerardM 15:54, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Racibórz

Hi. Can somebody write an (at least ;] ) short stub about my city (Racibórz) on your Wikipedia? Many thanks for anyone who could do that :) Olos88 07:44, 27 Julie 2009 (UTC)


[edit] Offeecial names in ither leids

Short syne, A pit the Ingles an Erse translates o the name o the PSNI on the airticle. A bodie said that thare are aiticles on the thair wikis wi thon names. A ken thons richt but gin we hae translates o names intae French for thae anes that hae offeecial French names shoud we no dae the same wi Ingles an Erse? Scroggie 09:39, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Weel, wi French, there's nae ofeecial name i Scots. Bit wi the Norn Irish instituitions, we hae an ofeecial Scots name. Ah ken there's ither ofeecial names in ither leids, bit suld we list em aw? Bazza 09:58, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Thon seems fair. Sae whan we hae an offeecial name in Scots than thon is eneuch, but gin we daenae hae ane than we shoud hae the offeecial name in whitiver leid is appropriate (likely Ingles first chyce) wi an unoffeecial Scots owerset. Scroggie 10:15, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Small request

Hello! I am a Polish wikipedian and I would like to ask you for your help - writing a new article about former Polish President who won the Nobel Peace Prize in 1983 – Lech Wałęsa. I have looked for his biography in your Wikipedia but without success. Polish Wikipedians will be grateful for your help. Thank you so much in advance! PS you can find the English version of the article here. Best wishes from Poland, Patrol110 22:20, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

Taen frae "http://sco.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Mercat_Cross"
In ither leids