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Wikipedia-logo-en.png Hello, Varlaam, an Walcome til the Wikipedie!
Guid tae see ye. Some gibbles ye'll find uissfu:

  • Gin ye are interestit in writin airticles we bid ye hae a read o wir page anent writin Scots. Ye micht aiblins find thir dictionars helpfu.
  • For tae caw the crack anent the technical wirkins o the Wikipedie, gang til the Mercat Cross.
  • Bi gaun throu the Commontie Yett ye'll can find aw kynd o wittins adae wi uisin an eikin til the Wikipedie.
  • For tae hae a sey shottie, veesit oor Saundpit.

Dinna haud yer wheesht, haud yer ain!

Its Gowf ye gowk[eedit soorce]

Gowf!

Re:[eedit soorce]

Yes, I'm from Poland. Malarz pl (talk) 06:17, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

You are welcome to fix any kintra data problems, or any other problems you can find!
In Toronto, where we just had our Polish Festival, Varlaam (talk) 06:23, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Re[eedit soorce]

Hello Varlaam! I answered you here. Thanks again. --Frigotoni ...i'm here; 18:23, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Reply[eedit soorce]

Okay, go ahead you can start to create some articles to which you refer, and not without reason or justification to remove referenced information. Greetings.--190.162.111.147 05:11, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

(in Spaingie) Quiero dormir ahora. Usted habla inglés; puede crear los articulos (stubs chicos) en inglés. Es fácil. Una frase. Dos or tres frases. 'Aconcagua is a mountain.'
Si no puede escribir en escocés, puede utilizar el inglés con la plantilla {{noscots}}.
No hay un problema con eso.
No necesitamos perfeccion aqui.
Buenas noches y buena suerte, Varlaam (talk) 05:22, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
Gracias amigo eso haré. Buenas Noches¡¡--190.162.111.147 23:49, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Re: ga-0/gd-0[eedit soorce]

I reverted, because you had bad template:babel on your page. If those template was bed you schould request for deletion of them, not breaking redirect. Malarz pl (talk) 13:26, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

Shuid[eedit soorce]

Is a miskent application o the <ui> grapheme. For mair aboot Scots graphemes hae a deek at this. 84.134.159.235 21:42, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

Saludos.[eedit soorce]

Muy buen trabajo en los artículo relacionado a la historia de Chile, muchas gracias por tus consejos y directrices de como elaborar un buen artículo. Lo olvidaba respecto a tu pregunta, pienso que tu español es muy bueno para ser tu lengua madre la inglesa. Vas por muy buen camino amigo. --190.100.203.141 00:41, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

Speak Spainyie[eedit soorce]

Yes, A speak Spainyie but no Catalan. --98.255.192.118 18:35, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

Re: kintra data[eedit soorce]

You can simply take copy of en:template:country data Michigan put it in sco:template:Kintra data Michigan, replacing name ("Michigan") with appropriate sco name in templatename and alias (it's articlename) and name alias (if exist, it's display name - for situation, where alias is name with disambiguation) parametr. Malarz pl (talk) 17:22, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

And repeat it 50 times :-). Malarz pl (talk) 17:25, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
My point was:
You enjoy doing that much more that I do. And Kintra data requires no knowledge of the Scots language.
My time is better spent on other types of problems.
Merry Christmas, Varlaam (talk) 07:57, 24 Dizember 2012 (UTC)

Transation Request[eedit soorce]

Greetings Varlaam! Would you be so kind to help me translate part of en:Lu Xun and en:Emperor Wu of Han into the wonderful Scots language? Please. 3-4 lines would be enough. Best regard-Vunz Vujmingz (talk) 07:32, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

Kurdish[eedit soorce]

Hello Varlaam, how are you? These links are very useful for you (from Iranian Studies at Harvard University):

--Calak (talk) 19:58, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

Other Kurd![eedit soorce]

r u scottish? Its cool! first I introduced to ur people at 1998 world cup, they start the cup with brazil! recently I have started to know scotland campaign to independence! in my family's tradition we respect the people who respect their traditions like scot people with their beatiful skirts! have u got a facebook account or sth like that? please call me back here at this address in ckb.wikipedia.org: madee

Min.neel (talk) 20:24, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

مەھاباد[eedit soorce]

I have answered your message in my talk page.--Calak (talk) 10:04, 24 November 2012 (UTC)

Question[eedit soorce]

Hi Varlaam,
I saw your interaction with SpaceBirdy both on meta and here, and I'm confused. Could you point me to the policy that states where users must disclose their location? Such a policy would be exceedingly unusual and I'm not at all pleased to hear that it exists. I appreciate your help in tracking this down. Philippe Beaudette, Wikimedia Foundation (talk) 01:30, 3 Dizember 2012 (UTC)

Regarding your post here; First: Spacebirdy is not "one of our guys" - he's not employed by the WMF. He's a volunteer. I am not, I am staff. He has no relationship to us. Second: Wikipedias are NOT free to make any policy they please - there are certain global policies, for instance (BLP comes to mind immediately) and we have a series of community pillars that are inviolable. For instance, you could not copyright everything on this wiki under a non-free license. Likewise, we do not require the type of disclosure that you're mentioning. Philippe Beaudette, Wikimedia Foundation (talk) 16:13, 3 Dizember 2012 (UTC)
This matter has already been resolved, so you are raising a dead issue.
Against my better judgement, I have already agreed to allow Mr. Princess and the Pea to tell me his country of origin, and I will remember it.
However, our policy otherwise remains unchanged.
I am also a volunteer, giving away my engineer's time for free, running this project for the benefit of paid employees like you.
I occupy the moral high ground.
Regards, Varlaam (talk) 17:13, 3 Dizember 2012 (UTC)
Addendum:
Your policies allowed English Wikipedia's most important editor to be hounded into retirement.
Our policies are for the benefit, not the detriment, of this project.
Varlaam (talk) 17:40, 3 Dizember 2012 (UTC)

You have mail[eedit soorce]

Just letting you know you have email. Feel free to contact me with any queries, concerns, etc -- if i cant help personally, I will try to give you the best people to do so.

I have mail? From Meg Ryan? That's awesome. Varlaam (talk) 17:13, 14 Dizember 2012 (UTC)

Dizember 2012[eedit soorce]

What ? You mean Category:Fowk frae Ankara, people from Ankara Province ? Do you use that category for people from the city of Ankara ? Takabeg (talk) 08:18, 16 Dizember 2012 (UTC)
(in Inglis) Do not put your vandalism warnings on my page.
What do you mean by Ankara? You are the one who is from there.
Varlaam (talk) 23:17, 16 Dizember 2012 (UTC)

Brucken reguidal[eedit soorce]

Your response on my IP talk was no substitute for an explanation as to why you insist on maintaining this (and quite a few other pages) as broken redirects that lead nowhere. 71.127.139.4 02:57, 24 Dizember 2012 (UTC)

(in Inglis) You suddenly speak English now. (Brucken reguidal?)
That redir page was created by our most important editor.
Ask him if it's necessary to keep it. Maybe it's an oversight.
If you have noticed other problems of this kind, ask him. You are the first user to notice this issue, if it is an issue.
It is his practice to create redirs of spelling variants so it's easier for users to find things.
I don't interfere with his method or his process.
Merry Christmas, Varlaam (talk) 07:41, 24 Dizember 2012 (UTC)

Re:[eedit soorce]

Thanks a lot! Happy christmas to you too! ;-) --Frigotoni ...i'm here; 17:23, 25 Dizember 2012 (UTC)

Mille grazie al cavaliere, il Signor Frigotoni. Varlaam (talk) 20:18, 25 Dizember 2012 (UTC)

Re: 66 and Varlaam[eedit soorce]

66 has not responded. That is me, Varlaam, the scowiki manager, speaking.

Who are you to be so concerned about a project you have nothing to do with?

You are an IP user. And it's Christmas time. Why am I spending my Boxing Days dealing with these trivialities?

You stated your point of view. Fine. That matter has been settled. 66 is free to deal with Arcos, when he is not busy doing something that matters to anyone who contributes here.

Do not import your attitude from enwiki and wave it in our faces.

I am also a Master Editor at enwiki in my spare time. Happy Boxing Day, Varlaam (talk) 18:51, 27 Dizember 2012 (UTC)

I did not come here to troll for reactions. I came here incognito as a wikipedian with 8 years and 100 thousand+ edits' experience, but shrewdly logged-out, because I had a premonition what this project would be like if I simply flagged ONE single broken redirect for deletion. You say I am the first person to notice, hmm, this has never been controversial practice on most wikis - they all have a list at Special:BrokenRedirects that perhaps you didn't notice, and they ought to be wiped from time to time, whenever someone gets a chance, no hurries of course. It's not my fault how you chose to spend your Boxing Day. But I must say - if I HAD been trolling, I would have to make a note of this place for future reference as a veritable gold mine, considering the ease with which a fuss was provoked over nada! 71.127.139.4 13:37, 28 Dizember 2012 (UTC)
It was pretty obvious to me that you were a sock.
At enwiki, a little harassment like your stunt produces threats of blocking. But, then, that's the enwiki way. Can't solve it; block it.
Thanks for wasting my Christmas time.
I don't know what your point was, and I don't care. Happy New Year, Varlaam (talk) 05:14, 14 Januar 2013 (UTC)

Response tae Saint Paul, Minnesota‎, or Saunt Paul?[eedit soorce]

Nae, thare is nae need tae chynge it 98.255.192.118 18:16, 10 Januar 2013 (UTC)

Guid. A think thare shoud be a staundart policy, an A ken juist the man tae dae hit!
That's ye, ma freen, ye. Varlaam (talk) 05:18, 14 Januar 2013 (UTC)

Question 2[eedit soorce]

Sorry, but I would prefer to ask this question in English. I am a native speaker of English and have no experience in Scots, but am interested in continuing to edit the Scots Wikipedia. I have been using an online dictionary to make very minor edits thus far, and hope that as I continue to read more Scots, I will gain a better understanding of the grammar and style used on this wiki. Would it be okay if I continued to try and edit for a bit, or would you recommend that I just not make things worse, since I have no experience in Scots at all?
Bzweebl (talk) 05:40, 17 Januar 2013 (UTC)

(in Inglis) That's a surprise. You were suddenly so active I had assumed you were a Scots speaker without really double checking.
To be perfectly honest, our most productive editors here are not Scots, and needed to learn the language.
That's fine if you wish to do the same.
Our newest Continental European editor made a couple of errors on his first couple of attempts. Those were corrected. Now he has a template to follow and he's fine.
I would probably prefer you to do more on fewer articles, so it's less trouble seeing what just happened.
We have a lot of articles in the {{fixscots}} and {{noscots}} categories. Those are already marked as being imperfect. So anything you do with a "noscots" article is better than what is there right now: English.
Those two categories can be found on my home page.
I have created a category in anticipation of a user such as yourself. It's called Category:Guid Scots leid. Those articles were written by quite good speakers and are idiomatic (at least to my mind). Most of our articles here are not so idiomatic and there's no requirement for you to work at that level.
Scots has not been formalized; there are different spelling standards; there are regional dialects; there is a tradition of rendering speech phonetically. Therefore "spelling errors" are more a property of English, than Scots. I do not wish to see our articles made to conform to any single "authority" since the authorities differ. One authority has the Scots word for "hand" as "haund"; another says it's "haun" − and those are the "authorities". Conformity is artificial in Scots; variant spellings are the norm. Our template {{Stub/Ceety}} intentionally recognizes two spellings for "city".
So I prefer a novice not to "correct" spelling. I would rather see you turn English into a semblance of Scots.
I recommend you set up {{Babel|sco-0|en}} on your home page so everyone is clear.
Which country are you from? Or "Whit kintra are ye fae?"
Varlaam (talk) 17:40, 17 Januar 2013 (UTC)
Thank you very much for your assistance. I am from the Unitit States, and have no connection to Scots or Scotland, but became interested in your language. I see that Category:Pages in English needin pittin ower intae Scots has only 27 pages, so do you know where I could find a list of articles in {{fixscots}} or {{noscots}}? Thank you for providing me with Category:Guid Scots leid, and you can expect me to edit here on and off according to whether I feel like it.
Bzweebl (talk) 21:13, 17 Januar 2013 (UTC)
(in Inglis) You have not looked at my homepage as yet?
I am an English-speaking Canadian without an iota of Scots ancestry. (Half-Scottish ex-girlfriends probably don't count.) And that is pretty much our norm around here.
It would appear to be the North Americans who have the greatest curiosity about the Scots tongue.
I personally want to be able to appreciate the poetry of Robert Burns, or occasional Scotticisms in Scott, Stevenson, and so on.
I haven't set foot in Scotland for over 40 years; hopefully that problem will be rectified at some point.
Search my homepage for "noscots" and "fixscots". The associated categories appear beside them.
27 is a high number. I typically do not allow that number to grow. Some other languages of Wikipedia have very stringent rules about such things, and the numbers there would be 0.
Whereabouts in the States? Do you know Mike from Tuscaloosa? Red hair? (Joke.)
I hope that you do feel like it. We appreciate a responsible, conscientious language student around here.
We can always use more of them.
In Canada, Varlaam (talk) 22:18, 17 Januar 2013 (UTC)

Talkback[eedit soorce]

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Hello, Varlaam. Ye hae new messages at Bzweebl's collogue page.
Ye can remuive this notice at ony time bi remuivin the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

The reliability of the Online Scots Dictionary (OSD)[eedit soorce]

One strange translation I found in there once is "faur ben". That literally makes little sense, but OSD says it means "popular". So I have used it once or twice.
When User:Nou Uiserr, not a Scot, wrote A.G. Barr, the article was corrected by User:Derek Ross, a Scot, who changed "faur ben" to "weel-kent", noting:

"faur ben" means "a lang wey inside" gin it means onything

Precisely. Derek Ross wrote that on 23 September 2005 here.

Have I noticed anything else in the OSD that seemed unreasonable or unlikely? I think the answer to that is no; "faur ben" may be unique. As an addendum, I could note that the author of the OSD is not a perfect speller.
Varlaam (talk) 23:50, 18 Januar 2013 (UTC)

Re Burke and Hare[eedit soorce]

Hi. Saw your message on my talkpage. I redid Burke and Hare because I spotted some clear factual errors, but what prompted me to do it in the first place was that reference to English law which did not pertain in Scotland. I've relied mainly on William Roughhead's classic account in the British Trials Series for my revised version. I think you'll find I've taken pains over trying to achieve accuracy. Take a look at the last external link to see the history of dissection in Scotland (the general development parallels that of England but one can't cite changes in English law which simply didn't apply here). I am awaiting word on one point of accuracy from the Edinburgh Medical School. I know that a life mask was made of Burke in his condemned cell, but have left the original reference to a mask at Surgeons' Hall Museum being a death mask. I've asked them to confirm if that is indeed the case, or whether it's another copy of the life mask. Kim Traynor (talk) 17:32, 19 Januar 2013 (UTC)

(in Inglis) I really don't have time to become an authority on Burke and Hare, duplicating your efforts.
My assumption is that you are not an authority on Scots. At some point we will want to bring our article back in line with English.
Therefore, have you done a thorough and painstaking job in English documenting your revisions?
Otherwise, a senior editor there will just roll it all back.
Varlaam (talk) 21:51, 19 Januar 2013 (UTC)
I was just alerting you to the fact that the content of the article in Scots may now differ in some significant details from the revised article in English. If you check the edits in the viewhistory, you'll see I have gone to great lengths to ensure factual and interpretative accuracy. Rest assured that my sources are reliable; more reliable than some of the internet sources that had been used before. I predict confidently that the text as it now stands is very unlikely to be changed radically by other editors, though some may wish to add new information beyond what's there. Kim Traynor (talk) 14:09, 20 Januar 2013 (UTC)
(in Inglis) Pu-u-urfect. That's what I wanted to hear.
Now, if and when our local expert revisits that article, he will find something rock solid.
Braw wirk, as the Scots say. Thanks, Varlaam (talk) 18:02, 20 Januar 2013 (UTC)

Latin Americae[eedit soorce]

Sairy tae fesh this up on yer uiser page, but shoud Laitin American be deleted, 'cause Laitin Americae haes the same information? This is the anely place A ken that A will get a repone. Bzweebl (talk) 01:00, 20 Januar 2013 (UTC)

Please, sir, I don't speak Scots; you will have to address me in English.
Hey, when did you get so good? (I hope you weren't studying Scots on Shabbas, young man.)
I will take a look.
Vocabulary notes:
  • yer: It is very common here, but it may be colloquial, with "your" being more correct.
  • deleted: "deletit" is more conventional.
  • 'cause: Did you find that somewhere? "acause" is fine.
  • information: Check OSD for alternatives. I tend to use "wittins".
  • anely: OSD lists that spelling first, as I recall. Around here, "anerlie" is more common.
  • A: Other sources says it's "Ah", not "A".
Have you tried elsewhere unsuccessfully?
It is true that I am often awake, but only after my cuppa tea. Varlaam (talk) 02:35, 20 Januar 2013 (UTC)
Thanks a lot. I really only asked that in Scots to get feedback. As you can tell, I clearly haven't studied on Shabbos, as I repeated earlier mistakes of using "ed" instead of "it" and using colloquial terms when I find them. With regards to my question, I hadn't previously asked it, but I don't know of anything comparable to en:WP:AFD here, and if there is something I'm sure I wouldn't get a response as fast as I did here. Bzweebl (talk) 03:01, 20 Januar 2013 (UTC)
(in Inglis) "colloquial": I wrote "may be colloquial", since we have our problem with finding a language authority.
Practise all you want to right here.
The original group of Scots retired so there are not so many now who will chat in Scots, which is not a good thing.
I am not thrilled that so many discussions here are in English; but that is realistic and pragmatic. And that is why I mark mine with (in Inglis) to make it clear that the language here is not English, and shouldn't be.
You are coming along very quickly by any standards.
But, as I indicated earlier, Scots is not formalized. Spelling variants are typically acceptable, as are vocabulary variations.
"Gin" may be a Scots word, but "if" is also a Scots word, and possibly more current than "gin".
Again, we have a problem with which authority is most reliable, and no native-born Scot with a doctorate here, for the time being, to decide what standard(s) can safely be followed.
As you discovered recently, we have 12K articles vs. 4 million in English.
So all of those sophisticated features of enwiki don't work here.
That's partly why I applied for adminship.
I'd like to see more of the sophistication of enwiki working here too.
Varlaam (talk) 18:27, 20 Januar 2013 (UTC)

Sitenotice translation[eedit soorce]

Is this the correct translation (provided by User:Techman224):

Editors ur invited tae contribute content at th' Scots Wiktionary at th' Wikimedia Incubator.

? PiRSquared17 (talk) 03:37, 1 Februar 2013 (UTC)

No. That is something I intend to correct once I have had a chance to read and respond to your earlier questions,
and acquire admin authority.
From the Virgin Islands, Varlaam (talk) 01:22, 9 Mairch 2013 (UTC)

Hello, masel[eedit soorce]

The nou A'm in the Breetish Virgin Islands, at Foxy's Bar on Jost Van Dyke. [Varlaam] 65.48.217.58 01:17, 9 Mairch 2013 (UTC)

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