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Aye aye man. Whit like.

A'v seen yer contreebutions at Dick Cheney an Nursultan Nazarbayev. Nou dinna get us wrang, A'm no wantin tae pit ye aff contreebutin. But, hiv ye haed a leuk at Wikipedia:Spellin an grammar? We dae allou a wee bit orthographic leeway here, but no tae the extent o lattin ilka bodie hae thair ain idiosyncratic orthography, specially ane as fremmit as ane wi the spellin <quh> for /hw/, that haesna been uised syne Middle Scots (cep in Ulster), or using the edh <ð>, that's ne'er been uised in Scots. A'm no shuir whit ye'r tryin tae dae bi uisin thae spellins?

Forby thon, the tone o the twa airticles ye wrat isna appropriate for encyclopedia airticles. That's the wey A chynged the airticle Nursultan Nazarbayev an it's hou A'm gaunae chynge Dick Cheney.

As A say A'm no wantin tae pit ye aff contreebutin -- gin ye'r sairious an genuine aboot it. But A wad appreciate it gin ye cuid think aboot the pynts A'v pitten tae ye abuin.

Cheers,

Mendor 14:00, 31 Januar 2007 (UTC)

The uiss o <quh> for /hw/ in Ulster the nou wis taen up in the 1990s for tae mak Ulstèr Scotched mair different fae English nor it is. Afore thon it haedna been uised there syne Middle Scots aither. It isna necessar.

84.135.252.104 08:57, 2 Februar 2007 (UTC)

Aye weel nane o us is writin wi English orthography -- gin we war daein thon it'd be like Lewis Grassic Gibbon that wrote brave for "braw" an silver for "siller". But the history o Scots means that it's aye been written in a wey that's sib tae the wey English is, an A dinna think that'll chynge.

A hae sympathy wi yer pynt o view on this but the problem wi idiosyncratic orthographies is that nae ither bodie kens thaim richt. It teuk me twa-three goes tae unnerstaund whit ye'd written on ma talk page, e'en tho if ye'd sayed it tae me A'd hiv unnerstuid it richt awa. Nou o coorse a lot o that's a maiter o familiarity wi the spellin's ye'r uisin but A dinna see hou ye'd want tae gang oot o yer wey tae mak a mair "logical" spellin seestem whan it's a fash for ither fowk tae read it -- the hail pynt o writin is sae that ither fowk can unnerstaund ye.

As for Teuchter vs. Glesga -- A can assure ye that naebodie's wantin ye tae write in Teuchter! Houaniver A dinna gree wi ye whan ye say that we shuid write the wey we talk. Juist like naebodie shuid talk like an encyclopedia, A dinna think encyclopedia airticles shuid be written the wey we wad speak.

A howp this answers yer questions. A dinna richt unnerstaund whit ye mean aboot Y an AY -- dae ye mean the differ atween the Y soonds in gey an guy?

cheers, Mendor 17:13, 4 Februar 2007 (UTC)

A body coud juist mak mair conceestant uiss o fameeliar 18t & 19t century conventions (Fergusson, Burns, Ramsay etc.) but that's no muckle o a divert. Its a hale sicht mair fun tae invent yer ain orthography. Whither or no fowk can read it disna maiter, its pittin ower the authentic vyce an bein creative whit coonts - a language for anarchists. That's the attraction o writin Scots. If fowk wis tae invent their ain orthographies for uiss in the English Wikipaedia fowk wad think they wis daft an wadna thole it. Sae aw the heidbangers comes tae the Scots Wikipaedia.

84.135.254.238 10:38, 5 Februar 2007 (UTC)